1955 S?

[Dudeld]

I have a 1955 S that looks like a S over D to me . If you look closely you can see the fainted D in the lower loop of the S. I will let you all decide.whst I know you can see another S to the northeast of the top loop. It look like a shadow of a S

[mustbebob]

Pics are a bit out of focus, but I see no indications whatsoever of a D mintmark. Also, I see what you are thinking is another S, but once again, it is not another mintmark, but merely the surface of the coin. They can't mint or re-punch shadows. Sorry.

[Dudeld]

I am showing this picture of a side by side to show people where I think the S over D is on my coin that I see. It could well be the surface of the coin but the surface doesn't produce. Shadows either.

[Kloccwork419]

Thats normal. It from the MM punch. If you compare it to others you will see its on most of them

[Dudeld]

I did look at them and some look close but none made the CS look like a B like on my coin

[Kloccwork419]

These are the first 2 pictures on pcgs. Same issue. I would say its on about 90% of them. Some not at extreme but its the same thing. Not an RPM or OMM. Its from the punch. These were hand punched back then and thats why they're in many locations on the die and some repunched. Yours is normal

[Dudeld]

[MintErrors]

For one, I highly suggest listening to at least Bob P. as he has many years of experience in Lincoln Cents.


Two, I highly suggest you try to look up the possibility of this year even having such an issue. I will cut to the chase - This year does not have a D/S or any other OMM. You can verify it for yourself at a few places. http://varietyvista.com or https://coppercoins.com. I suggest going over to those sites and seeing if there is a match.

To me, its nothing more than an illusion, since it is not raised on the coin.

As some one had started to explain, the working die had the mint marks punched into the working dies which made coins back then. IF they didn't get a good impression of the mintmark, they added another with more UMMMPH.
When the working dies strike planchets into coins, all the devices (numbers, letters, buildings, animals ect ) that are embedded into the die are raised on the coin.
The field - the rest of the coin that is flat is the level area on the die as well.

This very minor imperfection could easily be just a mint worker cleaning up the die surface (field) and by avoiding the date and mint mark areas, may have slightly etched something meaningless there. After several hundered additional strikes it would probably just fade away if it is shadowy.

I have seen thousands of BU Lincoln Cents with some dents near the mintmark where the mint work adding the mintmark may have used a well used dull punch and gave it a really good smack, and it dented a coin.

I am a coin dealer on my off-hours and I would have a very hard time convincing any of my clients that this type of coin is a variety. If it takes more than 10X to see a variety, then most of the times, it is considered minor, at best.

Just about everyone in here has some experience in coins, some decades. Most are here to help identify what a person is trying to offer. Bpb P. is a Lincoln Cent attributor for CONECA and earned it. I have 40+ years in RPM's alone.

We wish you all the best, keep looking and hopefully you will find a winner soon. Many copper RPM's out there in the 1950-64 range.

[Dudeld]

I totally believe what Bob P. saying about the coin. The biggest problem when you look something up that has never been discovered or even a thought of it you will never find anything on it. It's like to find the lost city of Atlantis. There is not much recorded documents on the true location of it or if it truely existed but researchers and treasure hunters still search for it all the time. Some their whole life and still never will find it. And the truth really is that they probably already found the lost city but over looked it as just some regular city with a few neat artifacts. I just want to know what is this raised line on the upper loop and the lower loop. The raise line in the upper loop is pretty noticeably. Sorry picture is upside down.

[Kloccwork419]

[mustbebob]

I certainly don't mind anyone trying to find something that hasn't been discovered before. That is exactly how this hobby got started and still what drives it today. However, the more time you have in the hobby, the more you learn. The more you understand about the processes, you realize what they can and can't do. You find out those little things about coins that the newbies still may not understand yet. Shadows, staining, MD, plating disturbances, deterioration, striking pressure, circulation wear and purposeful or unintended alterations can all have an effect on the coins you view.

By all means, keep searching but know that the chances of finding new things on older coins is going to be tough. Does that mean there will never be a new discovery? I certainly hope not. Many thousands of collectors have looked at these before you. (especially 65 year old coins like this one). Be open minded when they give you their assessment, and do not beat a subject to death. On this forum...remember that you have the coin in hand, and we are having to give opinions based on photos or descriptions. It is not easy, but there is a lot of knowledge here, and chances are that someone knows what's going on with your coin. Good luck in all your searches.

[Dudeld]

I appreciate the knowledge of the experienced collectors. I know they have had a lot of more experience in this field than I do. So I take what they daily and go with it or if I truly disagree I would flat out tell you. I have before and it was against well experienced people. I have also had politicians back down or didn't know what to say or think. So if I argue with someone on a subject at matter it's only cause I have a valid reason to fight for what I believe in

[Dudeld]

I am still wondering what are those raise lines of the loops are. No one has answer that

[opsuper3]

I am still wondering what are those raise lines of the loops are. No one has answer that

If look closely at the inside of the loops of the S you will note that they are filled. The punch was driven in further in than it was supposed to be. Those little humps that you point out are part of the punch that supports the S, a part that was never meant to be seen. You'll find that under high magnification a world of small, insignificant things are revealed.

[Dudeld]

Thanks for answering my question. Thanks you for the insight