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1908 Barber Dime possible FS-303

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  • 1908 Barber Dime possible FS-303

    I bought this at an OCS to upgrade my Barber dime set. The date looked funny which I thought might be damage, but now that I have it in hand, I am thinking it is the FS-303. It was tough to get the details in the 0 but the details of the 8 presented quite nicely under the microscope.

    Anyone else want to give a yea or nay for the variety? If I did not get the variety right, anyone else know which it is?

    Thank you.
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    I pictured the coin at some new angles trying to get a better picture of the metal under the 08.

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    • #3
      Based on feedback on the PCGS forum this may be a new variety. Is the CONECA dime variety attribution service available at this time?

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      • #4
        I'm not a Barber dime expert, but I agree this doesn't look like the FS-303, but rather a similar looking (possibly new?) RPD. You might check The Authoritative Reference on Barber Dimes. I think it may be the most up-to-date reference.
        Wendell Carper

        It's a bird! It's a plane! Aw nuts... It's merely two die scratches!

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        • #5
          Yes, I have that book by Kevin Flynn and none of the 15 1908 RPD varieties in that book match up to the details in the upper 8 of the date.

          I have the first edition of the book. Was there any further editions of the book?

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          • #6
            I don't think there are any newer editions. The Barber Coin Collectors' Society website only mentions one from 2004.
            http://barbercoins.org/Collector-Resources.shtml
            Wendell Carper

            It's a bird! It's a plane! Aw nuts... It's merely two die scratches!

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            • #7
              These close but no cee-gar.......

              https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus...2-1916/815269/
              Gary Kozera
              Website: https://MintErrors.org

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MintErrors View Post
                It is similar to that variety, but my coin is not the Denver mintmarked coin. Also the cross bar in the lower loop of the 8 does not exist on my coin. The feedback I got on another forum is this may be a new variety and I needed to get it in the hands of an expert to be sure.

                I will be sending it in for grading/encapsulation soon, and then I will need to find a Barber coin expert to analyze the coin.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sumdunce View Post

                  It is similar to that variety, but my coin is not the Denver mintmarked coin. Also the cross bar in the lower loop of the 8 does not exist on my coin. The feedback I got on another forum is this may be a new variety and I needed to get it in the hands of an expert to be sure.

                  I will be sending it in for grading/encapsulation soon, and then I will need to find a Barber coin expert to analyze the coin.
                  Might be better to find the expert first, so that hopefully they can add it to the slab. Honestly unsure who you would even report it to though.
                  Wendell Carper

                  It's a bird! It's a plane! Aw nuts... It's merely two die scratches!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sumdunce View Post

                    It is similar to that variety, but my coin is not the Denver mint marked coin. Also the cross bar in the lower loop of the 8 does not exist on my coin. The feedback I got on another forum is this may be a new variety and I needed to get it in the hands of an expert to be sure.

                    I will be sending it in for grading/encapsulation soon, and then I will need to find a Barber coin expert to analyze the coin.
                    I apologize for that goof. I was ooc for about a week. Still trying to get thoughts re-organized.

                    So, I have 3 or more potential new finds as well. I added one of these to the attribution area here on CONECA. Bob suggested I contact Jason C.
                    My question was - is it possible for CONECA in a letter about the coin(s) submitted, IF a new variety, that this can be added with the letter? I wanted to ensure chain of custody integrity, so there is no question when a coin goes from me, to CONECA for attribution, back to me then to ANACS for slabbing. I am good on the chain of custody part - I only need to see what the letter says, and if positive - ship a copy of the letter and those coins to ANACS.

                    The "new discovery" tag isn't a big deal to me, but it is to other collectors trying to complete a set 100%. If a new one shows, they will be in very limited quantity; price and demand may follow.
                    Last edited by MintErrors; 05-04-2022, 09:05 AM.
                    Gary Kozera
                    Website: https://MintErrors.org

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                    • #11
                      I had a "Discovery Piece" designated on an ANACS slab approximately 17 years ago (1944 1˘ WDDO-017). I do not recall the chain of custody that needed to make this happen however.

                      With this dime, my intention is to have a slab number already and then have the number on the attribution letter if it is a "discovery piece."

                      For the "new discovery" coins you have, you may want to contact you favored grading company to get the procedures they require in order to get the proper designation on the slab.

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                      • #12
                        Wow! Chain of custody? We aren't talking about state secrets here. We are talking about a coin. We are also talking about a first reported scenario. When you get a letter from CONECA, it will tell you that your coin has been added to the files, and you will be given credit for that. Any designation of first reported, or discovery coin holds little to no world acclaim except on very few cases of MAJOR varieties. Yours may have indeed been the first reported to CONECA, but what about the other files out there?
                        If you want that on your slab, then please do your due diligence with the third party grading company and see what they will require just as sumdunce has recommended. When you deal with the CONECA attributer (or any other attributer for that matter) ask them up front, and see what they are willing to put on your attribution letter.
                        I am very certain that there are many, many individuals out there who hold claim to the discovery piece of first reported and either don't know it, or don't particularly care. Remember also that if it is a new listing, it will have a VERY limited number (probably 1). It does not make it rare, scarce or priceless. Only time and the hobby will determine those things.
                        Bob Piazza
                        Lincoln Cent Attributer

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                        • #13
                          Trust but verify. Otherwise, I can neither confirm nor deny.

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