1972 FS-105 pt2

[Bassfish11]

This is another one Bob. Actually I think this one I got it but you tell me. Thx!

[mustbebob]

Master Die Doubling. Affected about half of ALL 1972 cents minted, whether Philly, Denver, or San Francisco. Look for a small die gouge in the upper R or S of TRUST.

[Bassfish11]

Bob if you don’t mind take a look at this one. I can’t attribute it. It looks like nothing Wexler or CC has. As you can see it has the master die doubling but on the tail of the two you can see remnants of another tail. None of Wexler’s attributions look like this die ( I didn’t think) What’s your opinion? Oh and I wasn’t sure but take a look at the “L.” They’re appeared to be a very light second bar on the top of the bottom bar. Not sure there. Thanks! Don

[mustbebob]

I would say this is all Master Die Doubling. The problem we have in attributing things like this is that the master doubling can appear different on different dies. We already know it's a doubled die (master), but they aren't worth anything because of the numbers out there. I would say that yours is just one of the many different versions of the master die doubling.

[Bassfish11]

Now that’s interesting. I’ve Always felt I was comfortable id’ing the master dd. I knew already this coin had the master dd but I did not realize this 2 was a part of the master hub because these are various doubled die varieties that show within that master hubbing (example FS-109). If there are different variations of the 2 within that master hub doubling I’d like to learn all the different possibilities. I’m very much into the 1972 series and would like to eventually become well studied in the series. I buy quite a few rolls every time I get a chance. How could I learn the different 2 fonts/variations within the different master hub dies? Someone should create a chart Thank you Bob. I really appreciate your help! Don

[mustbebob]

Don, Since the master die is already doubled, and the die is hubbed multiple times, you can see where different doubling is possible on different dies. Any movement whatsoever can manifest itself an any area of the die. I know you have seen coins where the master die is really strong, and others where it just seems mushier. However, things like DDO-009 do not have the master die doubling. Most of the major doubled dies for the date are on coins without master die doubling. Some of the more minor listed obverse doubled dies, are indeed on coins with the master die doubling. They all have significant extra bars in and around the 2 of the date. This brings about different questions though. Are these in fact doubled dies, or are these scratches and/or gouges? In fact, they would be considered doubled, doubled dies, or tripled dies. I still need to do some work on these. I do find it fascinating, but not fascinating enough to get constant headaches from :-). If I find out anything else, I will surely make it public.

[Bassfish11]

Yeah I agree. It’s sometimes gets dizzying for me as well trying to correctly attribute all the minors but honestly I love it. This is my favorite year to study. I’ve got another 10 rolls coming and I’m stoked for them to get here. I have a question on the new Maya Angelou quarter DDO. Ill start a new post for that but check it out.