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2020 Westpoint ATB Weir Farm Doulbled Die Obverse/Reverse

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  • 2020 Westpoint ATB Weir Farm Doulbled Die Obverse/Reverse

    I would very much like insight about this coin. I've noticed that there is doubling as well as the portrait differentiating from the original WestPoint. Reverse shows doubling all over. All the letters are uniquely designed. Below I have included two full view pictures as well as a link to detailed closeups of the aspects I've mentioned above. Any insight is very much appreciated! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NzS...w?usp=drivesdk
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  • #2
    Your link for the closeups does not work. It say's there is a problem with the previews.
    Bob Piazza
    Lincoln Cent Attributer

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    • #3
      See how much lower the affected area is ? It looks lower, shelf or step- like... in my opinion, this is machine related damage. Worthless doubling. If it were a ddo, the area in question would have been a lot higher. The doubled die impressions on the die are created with the same pressure, so they should be really close to the same height on the coin.

      Although not same type coin, here is a link to a 50c Kennedythatvdisplays the varietyvon him... it looks like a cookie cutter line where one impression is on top of another impression...
      http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy...966PDDO001.htm
      Last edited by MintErrors; 09-27-2022, 04:30 PM.
      Gary Kozera
      Website: https://MintErrors.org

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      • #4
        I agree with Gary's assessment. I also need to mention that MD on incuse lettering looks different that normal MD. Have a look at this link:

        https://www.error-ref.com/?s=incuse+doubling
        Bob Piazza
        Lincoln Cent Attributer

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        • #5
          As Gary usually mentions, these dies are all made by pressing a master die into steel. Once hubbed, they just plain don't move. There are no different positions for letters or numbers. The date can not be misaligned, and there can not be different size letters either. Any slight differences you see have multiple reasons for their appearance. Striking pressure, struck throughs, circulation damage and die wear all contribute to them maybe looking a little different. You also mention that you are using incredible magnification. If you zoom in on anything with that much magnification, things might look a bit different. Die markers can appear at any time during a striking cycle.
          As an attributer, I used 10X magnification to identify varieties. You can use a scope also, but you need to remember that 99.9% of the people who will view this coin, will not do so with the equipment you are using. I still very much agree with Gary's assessment of MD. To me there is no doubt about that. I do not know how you can not see it while we can see it in your photos. Usually, it's the other way around.
          Bob Piazza
          Lincoln Cent Attributer

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