1980 LMC Coneca DDO-001

[Ronald]

Your inputs are appreciated.
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[MintErrors]

In my opinion, it is not a ddo. The images on variety vista show a much thicker 1 and 9 on the variety vista website. The example you are showing appears to be machine doubling, in my opinion. It is lower, shelf like and does not appear to be the example on variety vista.

There is no mention of doubling on GOD or WE...
Description: Strong spread on LIBERTY, coat, and date

The attributers tell people where the doubling occurs, because that is where they see it on the coins they have examined. Its a steel die that mak8es these coins and where there were multiple impressions on the die is set in steel......... the doubling does not move locations.

[Ronald]

In my opinion, it is not a ddo. The images on variety vista show a much thicker 1 and 9 on the variety vista website. The example you are showing appears to be machine doubling, in my opinion. It is lower, shelf like and does not appear to be the example on variety vista.

There is no mention of doubling on GOD or WE...
Description: Strong spread on LIBERTY, coat, and date

The attributers tell people where the doubling occurs, because that is where they see it on the coins they have examined. Its a steel die that mak8es these coins and where there were multiple impressions on the die is set in steel......... the doubling does not move locations.

Thank you, the question I have now is, just for my education sake, how could a late die state (last use) affect the original DD. I know it is an opinion question, but I do appreciate your opinion.

[mustbebob]

how could a late die state (last use) affect the original DD

The late die state is the condition of the die when it struck that coin. When a die is new (or early die state), the devices are all crisp and sharp. A doubled die would appear sharp as well. As the die continues to strike coins, it wears more and more. This leads to die deterioration, where all the device's sharp edges get mushy in appearance. In addition, die flow lines begin to form on the surface, and this gets transferred to the coin also. Ultimately, this mushiness affects the look of the doubled die as well. You should still be able to see it, but it won't be as sharp and as readily identifiable.

[MintErrors]

Then, add in wear and circulation damage, and things get harder to identify it as a doubled die. These dies made of steel are striking thousands to hundreds of thousands of coins. Its a metal vs metal event there. Nothing stays perfect in this process. As coins get worn down due to circulation, the VF grade or lower, it takes a pretty recognizable doubled die to see it. All the hints of a cookie cutter style line may be gone that showed the separation between impressions. You may be left with what appears to be a slightly thicker letters, numbers or other devices. The majority of the markers and pick up points (pups) may be gone as well for that die stage.

[Ronald]

Thank You