Double die

[Mobilprojohnny]

Hi is this a double die?

[MintErrors]

No.
No year to research, no full coin obverse and reverse.

[Ray Parkhurst]

No.
No year to research, no full coin obverse and reverse.

Are you saying that you would not be able to tell if this was potentially a doubled die unless you knew what year it was minted, and had images of both the full obverse and reverse?

[PNWMAKES]

Seeing full obverse and reverse makes it a lot easier to make a determination.

[mustbebob]

Are you saying that you would not be able to tell if this was potentially a doubled die unless you knew what year it was minted, and had images of both the full obverse and reverse?

I know what you are trying to get at Ray, but this is a little more than just that. In the forum world, how would we track this coin and this post? What would we search for if we had to come back to it later? It would also be helpful to have the other info to help attribute this coin. If this were a doubled die, we could tell the member which one it was and direct them to where they may be able to see it. Can't do that without a date and the ability to spot markers.

[MintErrors]

Are you saying that you would not be able to tell if this was potentially a doubled die unless you knew what year it was minted, and had images of both the full obverse and reverse?

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In my opinion, it is extremely helpful, as Bob has noted to have more than a photo of one section of a coin. With additional photos, and the date, one can then try to see if variety vista or other site has any documented doubled dies. When it comes to posts like this, if there is no good information, then I give the same short answer we got from the original poster. People constantly add photos and ask the exact same question a lot.

It's a two way street here. The original poster should supply some amplifying info. I don't want this to become a food fight, but in the end the original poster should help us, help them. They learn from it, and a select few go on to attribute coins by themselves.

[Ray Parkhurst]

I agree that IF the coin appears to be a doubled die, then it makes sense for the owner to post more info about it so that a determination can be made if it might be worth looking further into. Presumably the owner would have taken a photo showing an area that exhibits doubling, and if folks agree that doubling is evident, then more info would be requested. If not, then a simple "this does not show any evidence of doubling" or whatever would be appropriate, and reasonable folks could move on. The problem I have is that MintErrors just said "no", and gave the justification that more extensive research info was not shared. That response was inappropriate in my opinion. That said, I don't see any evidence of doubling in the image provided, so the "no" answer may be correct, but is it really appropriate to ask for the owner to take more pictures and provide more information about a coin when it has already been determined that the coin is not a doubled die? Is the idea just to give busy work to the owner?

I see many kneejerk responses on the various forums, and IMO they are an embarrasment to the hobby. I do realize that there are a lot of folks who have unreasonable expectations, and I personally don't have the fortitude to put up with some of the games that seem to be played. I expect the kneejerk responses are a reaction by those who may be jaded by these folks, and it is understandable, but those responses don't help the hobby. We need to foster the collecting spirit, not squash it.

[mustbebob]

Thanks for your opinion Ray. I prefer to not get into it here in the public form as to why I want the info. I refer you to the CONECA Forum Rules, item 12.

[Ray Parkhurst]

I looked all around but could not find the Forum Rules. I found some Forum Protocols, but it has a couple item 12's and neither seems appropriate for the discussion. Can you give a link to the Forum Rules?

[mustbebob]

I don't want to make mountains out of mole hills Ray. I just want to keep control of my forum.

https://board.conecaonline.org/forum/coneca-announcements/3670-coneca-forum-rules

[Mobilprojohnny]

Hi guys thank you. That picture was a screen shot of a newer quarter from pcgs website. I just like to see if that how a double look like since the new coin is made with a single sqeeze. I don't remember which quarter i was looking at.