2022 P 1c Lincoln- Doubling on the inner ear, nose, eye, and forehead.

[Petespockets55]

2022 P 1c Lincoln- Doubling on the inner ear, nose, eye, and forehead.

I have come across about 10 coins in a group of change a friend dropped off. There was separation on the forehead, east side of the eye, and inner ear as well the tip of the nose. I have found repetitive matching markers on the coins for two different stages.

I know the tip of the nose resembles MD but please look closely at the rest of the doubling as it isn't flat.
Thanks for looking and any thoughts or comments are truly appreciated as "decent" DDOs aren't supposed to be possible in this single-squeeze era.

The coins seem to be in two different stages as the die flow lines are lighter on 3 of the samples. Let me know if anyone would like more images from different coins for comparison.

So far I've come across about 10 pcs out of 100 coins from 2022. These numbers seem too high for it to be hub doubling but I may just be in an area where there is a high concentration of them (if they are a normal DDO). Finding so many at one time did make me wonder if it might be Master Die Doubling (similar to 1972). But all the "normal" signs of doubling added to the doubling on the tip of the nose reminded me of 1935 DDO-001.

[occnumis2021]

lovely images.

fwiw, it looks like the "doubling" in the ear vs the eye are going in different directions.

lets call them, lower doubling and upper doubling. the upper doubling is east with the ear while the upper doubling at the eye is to the west.

i don't recall ever seeing ddo/tdo/qdo etc ever going in different directions like that.

i'd just send a few off to someone still doing in-hand attributions if you feel that strongly. at the least, you will have gotten some experience and a professional in-hand examination.

i personally prefer to submit coins i feel strongly about and pay for it to make it easier and more effective for everyone. if a coin turns out to be legit, it/they will need submitted anyway for the site to take professional pup images anyway.

happy hunting!

[Petespockets55]

Thanks for the reply occunumis2021 and you make a good point about the direction of the doubling. They are being assessed now and I'll let you know what's what. Finding so many at one time makes me think it's some form of master die doubling.

[Petespockets55]

Here's an update on this thread.
I posted this same info on a couple of sites to get some insight as to the cause. It generated enough interest that an expert in numismatics, Will Brooks, agreed to look at some coins in hand.
I was able to send off 13 coins, that had the doubling as described.

Here is his reply on another forum (used with his permission but underlining is by me):
" ..... I was definitely able to determine at least 3 different dies here. Since all have the same doubling on them, it must be a master die issue.... one set of 4 had the exact same 3 die dots around the F, and another set had the exact same heavy flow lines going from the shield into the the O, F, and A. A 3rd set had neither of these markers."

(Finding so many with the doubling was my first clue this was probably going to end up being master die issue. Different markers was the clincher.)

Thanks to all who looked this thread over and especially if you added some comments. That's what helps us all learn.