1851 3 Cent Silver DDO

[59burk19]

I purchased this coin 8 or 10 years ago, and I'm unable to find any information on this variety. It's a 1851/851, though it looks like there may be additional doubling on other letters. Any idea to get a ballpark value on this one?


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[Ronald]

Go to NGC, select the resource tab, scroll down to price guides, select US coin guide then to your question….
as far as info for this you can find it while you are in NGC, you can go in to variety plus, located in the resources column below the price guides

[occnumis2021]

the rpd is not connected with the lettering and to have both on one coin is either extremely rare or never has happened. i'd say maybe a couple times but none come to mind. if the rpd were part of a ddo along with the letters, you would see some VERRRRRY nice spread on other devices as well. would be a monster error in that instance.

a LOVELY rpd. what is that, a 50% spread. sheesh.

nice to see some classic coinage posted for a change.

the reverse die looks bisected.

from my understanding, it is taboo to post values around here.

[59burk19]

Go to NGC, select the resource tab, scroll down to price guides, select US coin guide then to your question….
as far as info for this you can find it while you are in NGC, you can go in to variety plus, located in the resources column below the price guides

Thank you. NGC does not show the variety as far as I can see. PCGS shows it as #38574, 1851 RPD FS-302.

[Ronald]

Thank you. NGC does not show the variety as far as I can see. PCGS shows it as #38574, 1851 RPD FS-302.

It shows in variety plus the same FS-302, and varietyPlus VP-001.

if you post these pictures in the ngc chat boards selection, under the same resources tab, to the newby forum you will get a quick response of grading and submission

[59burk19]

It shows in variety plus the same FS-302, and varietyPlus VP-001.

if you post these pictures in the ngc chat boards selection, under the same resources tab, to the newby forum you will get a quick response of grading and submission

Thank you. I was not looking in the correct place.

[Ronald]

Some excellent responses for you on the NGC board, there will be more.

In the past I’ve seen it also go the other way, when it was recommended by the ngc folks to bring an individual’s error coin question to Coneca to get Gary and Bob’s opinions to verify or go to attribution.

[Petespockets55]

Beautiful Repunched date on this one.
Isn't the doubling around the other letters Longacre doubling? (Especially IRCA)

Is the partial reverse clash (the ">" left of the first I) part of the markers as well?

[occnumis2021]

Isn't the doubling around the other letters Longacre doubling? (Especially IRCA)

looks like it to me from the pics.

[Ronald]

I enjoyed the comments at NGC, hard to beat coinbuff and rwb and several others, when it comes to facts…..thanks for sharing…..a lot of people learned from this post….and good photos are perfect.

[lyme3m]

... Longacre doubling...

Learned a new phrase and a bit of history. Cool

[Ronald]

Learned a new phrase and a bit of history. Cool

I appreciate this comment. The Coneca Club constitution is based on education and sharing knowledge.

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[MintErrors]

Some excellent responses for you on the NGC board, there will be more.

In the past I’ve seen it also go the other way, when it was recommended by the ngc folks to bring an individual’s error coin question to Coneca to get Gary and Bob’s opinions to verify or go to attribution.

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Well, I cannot speak for Bob, but I hope his quest for building a home in Florida goes well. I am swamped with projects at the moment and that is a good thing. If all goes as planned I will retire within a year and the house will be paid off. Then, the fun begins. I won't get into much details, but I do not believe I will be spending a ton of time on this website anymore. Things change, and in this case, for the better.

As far as this coin goes, it looks like a classic RPD. With the date that far off on the 851, IF it were a doubled die, the coin would look as dramatic as the 1955 or 1969 ddo Lincoln cents. Do an overlay and have a good chuckle. The 3 cent nickel series has a few great looking RPDs. Top them off with a pretty common die clash and you have one dynamite dramatic piece.

I will offer my opinion on select topics in here. That's about it, see ya again in a few weeks.

[MintErrors]

[QUOTE=59burk19;n84637]I purchased this coin 8 or 10 years ago, and I'm unable to find any information on this variety. It's a 1851/851, though it looks like there may be additional doubling on other letters. Any idea to get a ballpark value on this one?

It's listed in pcgs.com. go there. Look under price guides. Find your coin and year. To the left of the YEAR is plus sign, click on that and it will show varieties.

The CONECA staff frown on people talking about raw coin grading and also about pricing. So you will have to get a ball park figure at PCGS. The good thing is, it may show population or census numbers for coins. Some sites allow you to toggle between both. Look to the top right of the page.

[Ronald]

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Well, I cannot speak for Bob, but I hope his quest for building a home in Florida goes well. I am swamped with projects at the moment and that is a good thing. If all goes as planned I will retire within a year and the house will be paid off. Then, the fun begins. I won't get into much details, but I do not believe I will be spending a ton of time on this website anymore. Things change, and in this case, for the better.

As far as this coin goes, it looks like a classic RPD. With the date that far off on the 851, IF it were a doubled die, the coin would look as dramatic as the 1955 or 1969 ddo Lincoln cents. Do an overlay and have a good chuckle. The 3 cent nickel series has a few great looking RPDs. Top them off with a pretty common die clash and you have one dynamite dramatic piece.

I will offer my opinion on select topics in here. That's about it, see ya again in a few weeks.

I wish you both well ! Thank you