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1974 S penny was the last year San Francisco ran cents for circulation. Has anyone ever found one or heard of one with an S over a D? There should be no straight lines in the MM but this one does. I took a 74 D and overlapped it to see if it fit. The D is in green.
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Hello N-6166
The coin looks like it was in circulation for a while. the top part of the "S" looks to me there has been alot of wear flattening the surface of the "S"
I'm pretty sure this coin would come back to you as circulation wear / damage. Nothing more.
I hope this helps.
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In my opinion, it is a curved line, not a straight one. To me, it does not properly line up at all.
You would have to use the correct D as well.
http://varietyvista.com/09d%20WQ%20V...k%20Styles.htm
No, their has been no OMMs on Lincoln cents from the Memorial cent to date.Gary Kozera
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Thank you very much for your replies. The coin in question is actually “about uncirculated.” Since posting, I have read all the published articles I can find, and examined over 70 samples of 1974-S cents and have learned a lot. Even though the coin has nearly no ware, the production die used to form the coin has had the MM repaired 4 or more times plus it has a large volume of stress fractures in and around the “S.” see photos
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This is the value of searching, finding interesting things, and learning about them. Your research and analysis looks good, and you've done well with posting and getting feedback, with good conclusion. Keep up the search and research. That is what Numismatics is all about.Originally posted by N-6166 View Post
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Originally posted by N-6166 View Post
Lincoln cent dies typically manufacture about 1 million cents before being retired. Typically, there were between 9 and 15 minting presses operating at one time when manufacturing coins. Those are a lot of coins going into a random chute, heading toward coin counters and bagging.
They made over 412 million 74-S Lincolns, meaning they had a lot of different working dies that year. It canbe overwhelming to think about that, especially if the source of the rolls are generic bank wrapped rolls. How many different 1974-S cents could be in those rolls ?
My point is, coins go through different die states, there are minting presses using different working dies. It's pretty uncommon to see a lot of the same cents manufactured from just one die. Even in a BU roll wrapped by a Federal Reserve location, you can see 5 or more example types per roll, some times more.
If you have good die markers, and the mint mark is in the exact same place on all of the examples you examined, then good work. It's complicated to do, unless your involved in opening a mint sealed bag. Those are always fun.
Gary Kozera
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Thank you for your words of encouragement, as well as bringing in to focus the visualization of a BAG of coins! It actually sounds like fun, if I had the time. In a previous comment you brought up the 10X magnification that is the standard to date. As time has changed, anyone can obtain a digital microscope today for under $100 and hook it to their computer and make things a lot easier. Also, everyone knows the mint is doing everything they can to eliminate any and all errors. They have been promoting programs to collect and return pennies to the mint for recycling for the last five years. Just those two activities alone will greatly reduce the ability to bring new coin collectors into collecting. Most kids start with pennies and get hooked on enjoying it, especially when a person finds a penny and sells it at auction for $20-30 thousand. That rally gets kids excited and what do they do, start collecting.
Not only that, using my scope has opened a whole new world of “detective work.” What I mean is, the attached photos clearly show this coin does have up to 4 separate “S” mint marks that are truly “Re-Punched Mint Marks (RPM) however, you couldn’t see them with just a 10X eye piece. You might ask yourself is that really important? I’ll give you one more example to think about, what is MMS-009??
Look at all the images and read my notes on the photos, they were just notes to myself during my research. Note the last photo named 14 MM and see the big notch. Here is the kicker, they were all produced on the same production die, most likely all prior to 14 MM. Why do I think it’s so, the stress fracture lines get heavier and heavier as production proceeds and the ones with the notch are the ones with fractures running through the notch.
I would hope discussions on the use of scopes will help improve and foster more activity in coin collecting.
Thanks
Harley
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