2023 P Jefferson Nickel Doubled Die

[OneCent]

Hi all and I hope everyone is doing well!
So I was able to get this coin I discovered attributed and it is a new listing as a stage B of a "Best Of" Strong WDDR-036. Brian Ribar describes this as Very strong Class VIII doubling shows on the large semicircular window, the tops of all four columns, and the top of the door to the right of the center door.This later stage has the anomaly of a raised imperfection. Some have said maybe Hubbed-In Debris as referenced on ERROR-REF.COM. This area is quoted as... On the coin, the defect will appear as a raised imperfection that continues from the field to the design with no loss of clarity or relief. On this nickel some of the anomaly is hidden by parts of Monticello, like the triangular pediment and the triangle above the center door, with some loss of clarity and relief. Brian Ribar has noted this as die gouges through the center door. Does anybody now have new thoughts on this new device or relief that reminds me of a fallen flagpole at Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's home? I think we might need some help from "The MD!" These stray imperfections are seen randomly on other nickel dies of this year including some with doubled die reverses as seen in some of my previous posts. Link below this post... I am still waiting for a possible contact from someone in attributions at CONECA for other 2023P DDR's I came across along with this one. Thank you in advance for your time and thoughts.

[OneCent]

Here is my previous post in Mint Error Forum with more coins sporting the same type of anomaly!

[MintErrors]

If you decide the wait is too long, contact Jamez . He may be able to assist in the coin attribution section. PM him if you desire.

[occnumis2021]

oooooo. that "doubling" on the rev window looks promising!

keep us updated.

[Petespockets55]

The doubling does look promising. Congrats.
(Nice images and the arrows are a plus.)

[Jeff Stanley]

The raised wide low-relief abnormality in the doorway is struck through mark. It's common on modern Jeffersons including some of the varieties in Brian Ribar's listing pages. These are commonly identified as die gouges by some while others cite that they are debris of some sort. I have also heard of them described as "Die Dents". The Die Dent theory suggests that the die was dropped or a tool fell onto the surface of the die before it struck the coin. Why we see this on modern Jefferson nickels is mysterious. I see these marks quite often. The anomaly obviously affected the surface of the die but did not affect the areas of the design relief that are recessed on the die. Congratulations on the discovery. That is a step above the normal Class VIII extra metal around the door. I just reviewed the new 2023 listings after reading your post. There are several really nice varieties from 2023 including some Obverse Class VIII. I need to go get a box! I normally have 4-5 discoveries each year. I have slacked off. I attached two photos of one of my 2019 examples where the mark runs diagonal SW to NE passing over the facade including one of the semi-circular windows on the dome.

[OneCent]

Hello Gary, Pete, Jeff and Occnumis2021. Thanks for your replies, likes and encouragement. I am hoping that the Attribution Dept will be able to reply to my requests. I know life's demands tend to send us in other directions so patience goes a long way when volunteers give of their time. The doubling is pretty dramatic, but missed it as I was first only checking for doorway doubling like on the 2019's. I was intrigued with the raised anomaly which I also found on the Clashed Die Nickel WDDR-045 which if I had sent in to Brian would also be Stage B. So evidently, after these dies were hardened and had struck multiple coins, something harder than the die itself made an impression. I could see it as maybe being a long shallow scrape as a gouge, but these marks all seem to be about the same width and depth. Some marks are straight and some curve. Thanks for the pics Jeff! They look to be the very same marks, like a strip of something but hadn't affected the opposing die. The arrows of the earlier pictures were done with Irfanview software. Still learning!

[OneCent]

The anomaly obviously affected the surface of the die but did not affect the areas of the design relief that are recessed on the die. Congratulations on the discovery. That is a step above the normal Class VIII extra metal around the door. I attached two photos of one of my 2019 examples where the mark runs diagonal SW to NE passing over the facade including one of the semi-circular windows on the dome.

This is a great picture taken by Brian Ribar of my coin,although only through the doorway and not over the frame but somewhat on the stairs. The object starts on the field and goes through the dome, pediment doorway and the stairs exiting onto the field again. I was wondering what a feeder finger would look like?

[Jeff Stanley]

I was wondering what a feeder finger would look like?

Attached is a photo of Feeder Finger die gouges. They almost always show up as thin parallel lines that cut fairly deep compared to the "die dents". This is actually my "discovery" coin for WDDR-025. The Doubled die is a nice average Class VIII. A little better than 60% of the typical "extra meta under the door jam" varieties that we see attributed. The feeder fingers add a level of interest. I also have 9 other coins from the same die that contain a major strike-through. The second photo shows the same die with the strike through. All transparency, I am not the discoverer of the Doubled Die. I purchased 10 of these coins at a small premium because of the strike-through. The original owner had also pointed out the doubled die but had mistakenly attributed it to another discovery.