New Cherry Pickers Guide - Thoughts??

[BigDowgie]

I received the new Volume 1, 5th Edition of the Cherry Pickers Guide last week. I'm a Jefferson Nickel collector and was enormously (to say the least) disappointed!! It was pretty bad that Fivaz/Stanton only added one new variety, but they did not even add any pictures of it in the book; just a nice black half page. I would suggest writing the authors and don’t buy the 5th Edition, if you already have the 4th Edition. It would be a waste of money, plus the fact that the 4th Edition is easier to open and turn pages!

Please share your thoughts?

Digdowgie

[russellhome]

I received the new Volume 1, 5th Edition of the Cherry Pickers Guide last week. ... It was pretty bad that Fivaz/Stanton only added one new variety, but they did not even add any pictures of it in the book; just a nice black half page. ...

I submitted 8 2005 doubled die nickels to JT about 2 years ago. I sent 7 of the bolder Ocean in View 5c DDRs (one was a DDO/DDR). I also sent a 2005 P Bison DDO (CONECA DDO-001). JT was luke warm to the OIV DDRs and decided not to list any of them. He did tell me that he liked the Bison DDO and would assign an FS number. So I'm curious as to what the one new nickel addition in the 5th edition was. Is it this 2005 P Bison DDO? If so, I know he had one in-hand - so I'm disappointed that no photos were included. There are a couple of different 2005 P Bison DDOs - and at the very least, the die chip marker in the forhead on the 2005 P Bison DDO 001 should have been mentioned so that collectors would know the difference.

[BigDowgie]

russellhome,
The new Jefferson added to CPG is the 1941-S RPM-2 (Large S mint mark). I have nothing against this one, but I would think there are many others more desireable. I would suggest the 1939-D DDO-1, 1953-D/Inverted D or the 1958-D/Inverted D to name a few. And yes, the CONECA listing now has the new FS number on the 2005-P Bison DDO-1, along with the 1958-D/Inverted D. I thought for sure at least these two would have made the 5th Edition. Oh well, each collector has to do what they have to do. I know what I'm doing.......

[wavysteps]

There seems to be a bunch of dissatisfaction concerning the 5th edition of the Cherry Pickers Guide. Coppercoins, Lincoln Cent Resources and Coin Community Forum all have posts concerning this new edition..

Where the fault lies with theses inadequacies of this latest edition, I am not to sure. However, no matter who is to blame, it will place the CPG in serious jeopardy. People have not forgotten the situation that occurred with Edition # 4.

Some questions to arise from this latest mess are: Will PCGS stop using this guide (CPG) as it source for referencing varieties when encapsulating such?
What will the authors and/or publisher do to correct this situation? Will this be the last CPG? Or, is this the last printed CPG (a change to a computer disc would seem the way to go)?

Only time will tell. I do hope to see both Bill and J.T. at the FUN show and if the opportunity presents itself, I will try and find out what the full story is.

BJ Neff

[mustbebob]

There are many inadequacies with the new CPG. The prices listed for many of the varieties listed aren't even close. Some examples are a 1992D Close AM listed at $75 in MS65, and the 1982 ZSD DDR of which only 2 have been reported lists for $95 in MS65. The book is dated 2008, but Lincoln cent varieties stop at 2000, even though there have been FS numbers assigned through 2006. I have heard the same complaints about the nickels listed. It appears this book was haphazardly put together. There have been numerous complaints lodged with the publisher, and each reply has basically been the same...almost word for word.
To say folks are disappointed in this work is an understatement. I do not believe we will ever have to worry about this book selling out

[Jamez]

Was talking with a few dealers at a show recently and they too are really disappointed in the book. Even talked to one person who most everyone here knows that stated the same resolve. Its a shame when a publisher can push an author in to releasing something even though its not the way it should be. Happens in computer software all the time.. Remember Windows Millennium?

[NearDateHound]

While I haven't had enough time to get into depth with the content (just got mine in an order from Ken the other day) I definitely noticed the difficulty in opening and turning pages, which is a bit annoying. In looking closer, it seems that while the distance from the punched hole to the edge of each page is identical to volume 4, the size of the hole punched is smaller vertically, which is causing the wire to be compressed, thus the friction and difficulty of turning pages. After use that's going to result in a bunch of split pages.