2015-P Roosevelt Dime Interior Die Break Or Retained

[Stachowski]

I put some circles around the areas in question

[Stachowski]

Heres a couple of full shot images

[diamond]

The quality of the photos isn't good enough to make a determination as to the precise nature of the die breaks/cracks you've circled.

[Stachowski]

50x doesn't cut it on this one, need closer images to see whats going on . I know the field is filled between the leaves on the acorn side and runs into the stem, where it looks like it formed a cud .. As for the olive side it looks more then just a die chip, not sure if the stem broke there and caused a cud too ..

[diamond]

As best as I can tell, they look like die chips. They certainly can't be cuds since, by definition, a cud is connected to the rim.

[Stachowski]

Then maybe a " Freestanding Interior Internal Die Breaks " ...

[diamond]

The term is either "freestanding interior die break" or "freestanding internal die break". In any case, they're too small to qualify, in my opinion. So right now I'm going with die chips.

[wavysteps]

I agree with Mike; die chips.

BJ Neff

[Stachowski]

The term is either "freestanding interior die break" or "freestanding internal die break". In any case, they're too small to qualify, in my opinion. So right now I'm going with die chips.

Maybe I should measure them, I read they only have to be 4mm to qualify ...

[koinpro]

Any die break outside the rim is a die break (or chip) -- no further elaboration like the term "interior" needed. It's just wasted key strokes that accomplish nothing. I consider the one on the oak branch to be a die break and the other ones in the olive branch, torch, etc., to be die chips but the difference is very subjective with differing opinions between specialists. I couldn't care less it you call them die breaks or die chips when they get to this size. Really, a die chip is just a small die break.

[diamond]

According to current usage (and not Alan Herbert's idiosycratic and confusing definitions) "die break" is a non-specific label denoting any kind of brittle failure that results in a void in the die face. Therefore it's desirable to be more specific as to the nature and location of the die break. So we have cuds (marginal die breaks), retained cuds, die chips, interior die breaks, retained interior die breaks, and rim cuds. Of course, collar breaks have their own set of terms.

[koinpro]

Mike,

I guess if making it that complicated works for you that's OK for you. I really don't see any use in elaborating on the obvious. But that's just my opinion. Using modifiers that to me add no value just complicate things. For example, your term "Marginal Die Break" brings up the thought that it is of "marginal importance", i.e, minor or that it affects the margin (or rim area) meaning to me a Rim Cud. Though, far from perfect, is the better old fashioned term "Major Die Break." It has shortcomings too but nothing as bad as Marginal Die Break.