1985 P dime

[Dudeld]

I have a 1985 P dime that looks like is has some doubling on the 9, in God we trust and cool n the L, B, E and R in Liberty. From ny Searchvon the he wev and to my research there are no know errors for this year of dime

[MintErrors]

The "doubling" is low, and shelf like. More than likely this is related to mechanical damage. Machines are not perfect and some will cause a die to bounce, shift or otherwise.

Logic says if there are not any identified for this year, for me - in my opinion, this suggests that this leans heavily towards machine doubling/ damage, etc;

Machine doubling tends to remove a portion of the letters, numbers and devices.

A doubled die is exactly what it implies. When a working die was made, it received more than one impression on this working die. The impressions were not exactly on top of each other, partially off-axis. So there is some separation there. For doubled dies, the separation should be close to the same height. You may see a cookie cutter line near the top of these impressions where one impression was placed on top of another. Doubled dies may also so split serifs - the tips of the letters, top or bottom may show a slight separation. Spilt serifs can commonly be referred to as notching.

An important thing to note on doubled dies. Note that the Pick up points (PUP) that researchers have identified are the areas on the coin that the DIE that is creating these doubled die coins is pretty much fixed in stone if you will. Your coin should look almost exactly as the areas represented by the examples.

Keep searching ! There are winner coins out there, it just takes patience and perseverance.

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[Dudeld]

I see what you're ur talking about.I appreciate your opinion but the only thing wrong what I think you said is " Logic says if there are not any identified for this year, for me - in my opinion, this suggests that this leans heavily towards machine doubling/ damage, etc;". It it's logic, it is yours and others belief that there are not b identied for this year or other years not identied. So truly logic is in my opinion an over used word to hide behind so it make you feel that there is nothing need to elaborate more on that subject. I believe you could be right about Machine doubling or what.

[Kloccwork419]

Youre right. Just because theres none listed or discovered yet, doesnt mean its not. Its unlikely but very possible. Dont skip searching a coin just because theres nothing found for that year. Check them all. You just never know, you could discover something. Happens all the time.

[mustbebob]

Dudeld...you are certainly very defensive on not only this post, but others. We don't need any lessons when it comes to Logic. Remember that you requested opinions, and as such, you can accept or leave them. If you believed it was MD, then why the reply

it is yours and others belief that there are not b identied for this year or other years not identied. So truly logic is in my opinion an over used word to hide behind so it make you feel that there is nothing need to elaborate more on that subject.

You are not entitled to speak for anyone else here about their beliefs either. If your opinion is that logic is an overused word, then so be it and leave it be. I do not see anyone 'hiding' behind the word either. What I see is someone who doesn't like the replies, and thinks they need to go on the defensive about everything. Just be cool and instead of snarky remarks, maybe you should thank the people who have taken the time out of their day to reply to your questions.

[Dudeld]

I never said I didn't like their opinion I was agreeing with what they said. I also said they hide behind the word logic cause when someone can't truly state of own true opinion or thought on what is brought before them to examine then they almost always come back as say logically speaking. I have been guilty of it myself pl has been getting so defensive on subjects that I have posted has always been your u BOB. Come to think about it. You are always the one to come on to my post and take offense to what you say and in my opinion it seems like you only take about in what I say in a negative way. I know your opinion and others on this site matter to alot a collectors and I appreciate the time that you guys give us that look for advice. But you also need to take your own advice and don't get so defensive when others disagree with you either.

[Kloccwork419]

Bob is right. This is definitely a routine you have here. Itll get to the point where nobody helps you. You should appreciate that anyone still does after your last few threads

[Dudeld]

The thing is that I am not or arguing with anyone. All I have been doing it stating my opinion and they state theirs. If they disagree with my opinion then that's fine that's their right. if you truly look back at all my other post that is what I have only did. And I have always told who ever gave me their opinion and n what they believe what it is that I appreciate their input. But if there is something that they say I tell them what my opinion on the matter and hope the take it to thought. But then there are some that just jump to conclusions and start voicing the emotions instead of the heir opinion cause they can't handle disagreement very well

[Kloccwork419]

When you come here for help on a coin, most assessments are fact, not opinions. Then you keep pushing with your opinion on the coin. If you think you know what a coin is, then why post it? You’re told a fact of what the coin is and then you keep pushing. Does anyone read the forum protocol?

[Dudeld]

I don't even know how gy you all want to o argue about nothing all I did was say that people needs to quit your ding behind the word logic cause it's not logic

[Kloccwork419]

Its not this thread. Its all of them. Every thread you start seems to turn into this. Logic, by definition, is exactly like Gary used it. It is logic. Like it or not. I suggest doing a lot more research before disputing about a coin.

[Dudeld]

To him it might be logical by definition. Here's the definition " Logic is a method of reasoning that involves a series of statements, each of which must be true if the statement before it is true" and even in my other threads I just state my opinion and others don't like what I say and then they start arguing with the statement I made and it leads to this. Like this thread I stated I think people hide behind the word logic. I never disagreed with Gary on my coin or was arguing with his opinion on it.

[mustbebob]

OK. I think everyone has had their say, and I would like this to cease. Please remember that as the moderator here, I have certain responsibilities, to ALL our membership. Even though you are the only one who feels all of my replies are aimed at you in a negative way Dudeld, I will live with that. Enough said.