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  • 2022D from roll

    Now I got this out of a roll. It looks like road kill that someone put into the roll but if you notice the reverse is pristine. So how could one side get PMD and the other doesn't? Could this be a "ejection error"?
    Also all the other pennies were original as well with same date and mint marks and in RD condition. There's the sopt on forehead going thru TRUST were you can see copper and silverish core is this from die leaving some of itself or is that the pennies zinc core?
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    In my opinion, you can place a cent on a rough concrete floor. Step on it and slide your foot forward. That's what this looks like to me. Same effect if it is trapped under a push cart wheel. Or was used as a tool, shim, washer or space. When coins go into circulation, it's open season for damage and weird stuff happening to them, both unintentional and intentional.

    Copper plating is exposed. This is not ejection doubling or an another type of worthless doubling.
    Gary Kozera
    Website: https://MintErrors.org

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    • #3
      I totally get the how this could have happened from possible PMD. But like I stated earlier it came in a brand new roll with all of them being 2022D's and this one was in there with all the other new shiny RD's that never got into circulation yet. So I guess what I'm confused about is if this has never been "spent" how can it be PMD?
      Like I said earlier also I'm new to this and I do goto the websites suggested trying to learn but sometimes there's so much info it's a little overwhelming so I do miss somethings I'm only human. Again thanks for putting up with me and helping I really appreciate it. Also I want to iterate I'm NOT trying to argue I'm just trying to learn. ThankX.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shleppodella1 View Post
        I totally get the how this could have happened from possible PMD. But like I stated earlier it came in a brand new roll with all of them being 2022D's and this one was in there with all the other new shiny RD's that never got into circulation yet. So I guess what I'm confused about is if this has never been "spent" how can it be PMD?
        Like I said earlier also I'm new to this and I do goto the websites suggested trying to learn but sometimes there's so much info it's a little overwhelming so I do miss somethings I'm only human. Again thanks for putting up with me and helping I really appreciate it. Also I want to iterate I'm NOT trying to argue I'm just trying to learn. ThankX.


        It could have happened in the mint as well. The mint does drop coins on the shop floor, and I can imagine a cart almost skidding to a stop since a cent gets pinned under the wheel. It could have been stuck in a coin counter machine. It could be coin roller damage. I am sure there are other possibilities.

        Was this a bank roll or, a Federal Reserve or, specific to one type of bank?

        It doesn't look like a Struck through or Struck through feeder finger.
        The coin appears to have been struck normally with all the devices / design elements present. It does not look like any major error I have seen. It would take days over at error-ref.com to go through every error, trying
        to find a viable match.

        We are all human. We make mistakes occasionally. I myself am far from perfect, and that's a good thing. I cannot imagine how incredibly boring perfection might be...hehehe .
        Gary Kozera
        Website: https://MintErrors.org

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        • #5
          This is the roll it came out of. Obviously it's not the one showing but it was about a 1/3 of the way in from the end. Now you see why I was wondering? Is Loomis from the mint or is this the answer on how it got inside an UNC roll you think with PMD?
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          • #6
            Loomis is a rolling company. Just like Brinks or other third party agency. It's tough to know whether these came from the mint directly or just rolled up and sent on their way by some one else. It could have been searched by a collector and sealed, sent back to the bank eventually. It's difficult to know the path the roll has taken. I do not know if banks hand out free Loomis wrappers, but I know the String company sells roll tubes, I have an account with them.

            I never mentioned PMD but it is possible. That is all I got for this coin. I do not have notifications turned on, so I wander where I want and answer questions when I can.

            If you think it's something special, put a coin post in the CONECA SERVICES area under Examinations. If that answer isn't good enough, then the last resort is to send it to a third party grading service which will charge more than 50 bucks ( probably closer to 75-100) to examine, authenticate, grade then slab (encapsulate) the coin.

            The mint bags coins, are huge bags, I don't not remember the count, depends on denomination. The cent might be close to 10k in a bag, probably more. They ship them off to federal reserve locations, then they are sent to banks. I don't follow their contracts and how the third party places get involved with rolling them up.
            Last edited by MintErrors; 06-21-2024, 03:18 AM.
            Gary Kozera
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            • #7
              Ok now that would totally explain the scratches if Loomis is the coin roller. I didn't know that. I being new to this hobby had THOUGHT that it came from the mint that way and that Loomis being a armored car/truck service was just the transportation and for doing so they got a free company plug on the coin wrapper. It sounded logical I guess. I'm not Vulcan then I see. Oh well. Again thanks for putting up with me.

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