PCGS graded 180° rotated die mint error.

[Kiosk_Mirth]

The first 180° rotated Lincoln cent has been officially graded by PCGS in June of this year (2024).

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I read somewhere that there has never been a 180° rotated Lincoln cent graded by a legitimate third party grading service.

I found this odd since I had been listing one on my E-bay store Kiosk_Mirth for about a year for only $120.
So I decided to have the coin graded.

As you can see, PCGS has declared this to be a real 180° rotated Lincoln cent in Very Fine condition.

I hope in some way I may have changed the coin collecting world with my discovery.

I also intend to sell this coin at the end of the year through a reputable auction house.

I purposely blurred bar code as a precaution.

[occnumis2021]

i don't want to rain on your parade but there are for sure other 180 rotated lincolns out there but i'd say most weren't sent in due to the cost vs value. (how many wheaties tho)

if you were the first at pcgs (which i would find highly unlikely) i guess congrats.(there aren't public pop reports for errors afaik)

"""I read somewhere that there has never been a 180° rotated Lincoln cent graded by a legitimate third party grading service."""

here is one in ngc holder at HA - i'm sure i could find others if i searched more. you could ask weinberg, sullivan, errorsoncoins, ctf, byers etc.

hope you don't mind. i always gotta post trueviews if they exist.

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[IvoR1!]

They are both the same coin, no?

[MintErrors]

It's simple, this is a medallic style alignment. Coins showing varying degrees of rotation exist and in limited quantity.

OCC is right, there have been quite a few out there. For the outrageous side of errors, Heritage had one that was medallic alignment, proof 68 Lincoln cent.

I've seen a lot of rotated dies in Lincolns, followed by mercury dimes, then Jefferson nickels. The rotated mercury dimes went into the one coin for a dollar bins.

For me, the only reason I chimed in was someone else did.
Otherwise I couldn't due to they way my profile is set up.
I couldn't see the post. Let's leave it at that.

Fred Weinberg is pretty much retired. He does dabble once in a while on a single forum out there, but not too frequently.

[Kiosk_Mirth]

Occnumis thank you for your comment.

Not to worry, it was a small bubble to begin with. But thank you for agreeing with me that this is the first true 180° Lincoln cent to be officially graded by a third party grading service. Although I find your reasonings faulty.

It has been my experience that a true coin collector will go to great expense to become part of the history of the coin collecting world. So for you to say that the reason no one has ever had a 180° rotated Lincoln cent graded by a legitimate third party grading service is because coin collectors are just too cheap to do so, is just too absurd.

And lvoR1! is right. The coin you show in your example IS my coin.

[occnumis2021]

Occnumis thank you for your comment.

Not to worry, it was a small bubble to begin with. But thank you for agreeing with me that this is the first true 180° Lincoln cent to be officially graded by a third party grading service. Although I find your reasonings faulty.

It has been my experience that a true coin collector will go to great expense to become part of the history of the coin collecting world. So for you to say that the reason no one has ever had a 180° rotated Lincoln cent graded by a legitimate third party grading service is because coin collectors are just too cheap to do so, is just too absurd.

And lvoR1! is right. The coin you show in your example IS my coin.

in NO way did i agree this was the only 180 lincoln certified by a reputable tpg but precisely the opposite and in no way did i call collectors/dealers cheap.

i am sorry i ever responded to this post.

good fortune to you in your numismatic journey.

MintErrors good call and now my profile is the same.

[Kiosk_Mirth]

Sorry you feel that way. You use the Trueview image of my coin to prove that there are other 180° rotated Lincoln cents. Then you get upset that I call you out on it. I am still waiting for trueview images of other 180° rotated Lincoln cent.

[MintErrors]

Your not finding any because you are wrong about the category of the error.
It's a medallic alignment.
It may be the same thing, but there many slabbed.
Search for it yourself.
You will find quite a few This is my last response to you.
If you have an issue with the forum, chat with Jamez .

[Kiosk_Mirth]

Thank you MintErrors for your comment.

So where I see an act of God, you see a mint worker wrongly orienting a die before minting.

If I am right, this is a one-of-a-kind mint error.

If you are right, then we just found a new variety of mint error. Because if you are right then there has to be at least a few thousand 1940-S Lincoln cents with 180° rotated mint error (or in your words Medallic Alignment.)

Now we just need coin collectors to go through their 1940-S Lincoln cents. If more of them surface then you would be right. But until that time, I possess a true one-on-a-kind coin minted by the hand of God.

In either case, this coin deserves a small footnote in the history of the coin collecting world.

[Kiosk_Mirth]

I decided to list this coin on Ebay to more eyes on it. The following is that listing.

I am not listing this coin because I want to sell it. Well, at least not right now. I’m listing it because I feel I can reach more coin collectors this way.

Purpose #1 – I read in several numismatic periodicals that there has never been a 180° Lincoln cent to be graded by a Third Party Grading Service. So I had my 180° rotated Lincoln cent to PCSG. And now you can see with your own eyes that here is now a 180° rotated Lincoln cent that has been graded by a TPGS.

Purpose #2 – There has been some discussion as to how such a mint error could happen.

Thought #1 – Loose die. That would mean that this coin is a one-of-a-kind but also that there should be some 1940-S Lincoln cents with some weird orientations.

Thought #2 – Medallic Alignment. Meaning some mint worker installed a die in the wrong orientation. Which would mean that there should be several thousand 180° rotated 1940-S Lincoln cents out there.

Conclusion: Coin collectors need to take another look at their 1940-S Lincoln cents.

Update: It is now 8/15/2024 and 30 days since I listed this coin. This listing has so far received over 750 views. I have also received messages from 2 coin collectors that claim that they have been collecting rotation errors for decades. They also claim to have NEVER seen a 180° rotated Lincoln cent. You would think that if this coin was the product of Medallic Alignment that one of these “rotation collectors” would have found at least one 180° rotated 1940 S Lincoln cent over their years of searching. Also, one mentioned that they own a 1940 S Lincoln cent that is 40° rotated. And through my own research I found someone selling a 1940 S Lincoln cent that is 70° rotated.

Although not empirical evidence it is good anecdotal evidence indicating that this coin is a true “one-of-kind” made by a loose die. So you could say that this coin was made by a twist of fate, or if you will, minted by the hand of God.

Update: It is August 30^th 2024. This listing has received over 750 views in the past 45 days. No new news of others telling me of their finds. However, while going through my own collection I have found several of the 1940 S Lincoln cents to be slightly rotated, but by less than 20 degrees. And oddly enough the rotations seem to always be in the counterclockwise direction.
Also, while going through my own collection of rotations I noticed a number of 1925 D and 1963 D Lincoln cents. It is possibly that there may be more than one year that the U.S. mint failed to tighten down a die.
But as of yet no one has claimed to have another 180° rotated Lincoln cent. In fact, the people that have messaged me insist that they have never seen a 180° rotation. Leaving me to believe that this coin is truly a one-of-a-kind.

Because this listing has received such overwhelming response I have decided to also post this listing as a thread on Coneca’s online site.
I wish you good fortune in your coin collecting efforts.