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    OK here we go.....
    This is a unknown date and mintmark probably middle 2000's. It's 73.3% off center and at K-7:00? I used the formula in June 2024 Error Scope issue along with one of my newly acquired learning tools from Gary + digital calipers for my research.
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    nice to see someone using the resources available and learning. kudos

    the K number is more like 3 since K is basically the position on a clock, so 7 would be way on the bottom left side.
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    • #3
      So then it would be 9:00-K? Beings it's straight across?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by occnumis2021 View Post
        nice to see someone using the resources available and learning. kudos

        the K number is more like 3 since K is basically the position on a clock, so 7 would be way on the bottom left side.
        Excuse me, but I don't understand this formula.

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        • #5
          I agree with OCC, its more like 3 o'clock since that is about where the strike occurred and its orientation is point toward the center of the coin. It's where the strike is, not the direction it's facing.
          Gary Kozera
          Website: https://MintErrors.org

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          • #6
            One more thing.if you look at the 70% off center coin, from LIB down to the top of IN within IGWT, notice how flat that circular area The die struck the coin off center and thuced used so much pressure, itfjust crere is no rim on the working dies.

            Also, the dies strike coins with so much pressure that it easily destroys the rim when it is struck off center.

            It is the planchet soon after the planchet was punched from a strip of metal. It then went through the upset mill to make it a type one planchet (no rim) to a type two (with rim) planchet.
            Gary Kozera
            Website: https://MintErrors.org

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MintErrors View Post
              One more thing.if you look at the 70% off center coin, from LIB down to the top of IN within IGWT, notice how flat that circular area The die struck the coin off center and thuced used so much pressure, itfjust crere is no rim on the working dies.

              Also, the dies strike coins with so much pressure that it easily destroys the rim when it is struck off center.

              It is the planchet soon after the planchet was punched from a strip of metal. It then went through the upset mill to make it a type one planchet (no rim) to a type two (with rim) planchet.
              Nooooooooo

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              • #8
                How can you respond with no when you stated you didn't understand the formula in the earlier post ? I'm curious on what no means here.

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                • #9
                  I don't know who said no, as I do have a few people on the ignore list. No worries, it's a choice I made and I will stick to it.

                  Let me rephrase that last post. I did not notice that auto correct was going add additional words, phrases or letters where they should not be.

                  The 70% off center shows how the working die looks like, its not much more than a round piece of steel with an impression sunk into it. This is done backwards other working die, so it will orient correctly. Also, anything sunk on the working die will be raised on the coin.

                  The planchet itself is punched out of strip metal.

                  Once that is done they are sent through the upset mill to go from a type one planchet into a type 2 planchet.

                  Planchets are typically annealed (heated) to high temperatures - Lincoln cents can go up to 1700 degrees F.

                  Eventually the plachets get struck into coins. If there was an issue and a minted error was done, if it's an off center, the planchet is typically not in the collar, laying loose in the striking chamber. The coin gets struck, and the tons of force simply crushes through the rim and flattens it to almost level. The obverse and reverse should be about the same amount of percentage off.
                  Gary Kozera
                  Website: https://MintErrors.org

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                  • #10
                    I totally agree and thanks for NOT letting me make "the list". It wasn't me Gary that said that "I don't understand the formula and then turned around said NO" it was someone else & yes its very, very confusing!!!!! You guys are the one's with double digit years experience NOT me that's why I come here.
                    Last edited by Shleppodella1; 07-21-2024, 09:12 AM.

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                    • #11
                      We all started at the beginning, at some point in our lives.
                      Some are willing to learn about a hobby, others try and have a hard time.

                      In my opinion, I like to give e logical answers the answers may be long at times but, the objective is for people to learn from it. I would like to say it once, but that's not practical in most situations. Different t people come and go with the same questions, type of coin or issue.

                      Some answers lay within the walls of any forum or through the use of a question within a search engine. Research is vital within this Hobby and for those willing to help themselves, I will try to help them with their coin questions when possible.
                      Gary Kozera
                      Website: https://MintErrors.org

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MintErrors View Post
                        We all started at the beginning, at some point in our lives.
                        Some are willing to learn about a hobby, others try and have a hard time.

                        In my opinion, I like to give e logical answers the answers may be long at times but, the objective is for people to learn from it. I would like to say it once, but that's not practical in most situations. Different t people come and go with the same questions, type of coin or issue.

                        Some answers lay within the walls of any forum or through the use of a question within a search engine. Research is vital within this Hobby and for those willing to help themselves, I will try to help them with their coin questions when possible.
                        I am not interested in your ignore list, I am a teacher and it is very poorly explained. Sorry for the delay in explaining it. Also remember that this is a forum for debate. The meaning of forum is in the dictionary.

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