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  • Coindog
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    Mustbebob, That coin is staying in my collection for sure. I do understand that there will always be a question mark on how it came about. Thanks

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  • mustbebob
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    I guess it's possible. I would have never associated your coin with feeder finger damage that was abraded away. How do we know it was something else that was abraded? No matter what it was, is does not detract from the fact that something happened to your coin. None of us were there when this happened so everything, including the feeder finger theory is a guess. By all means, you should hold on to the coin. I just don't think you can conclusively say what it was, so we can go with the most plausible to you.
    Last edited by mustbebob; 06-22-2021, 05:24 PM. Reason: typos

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  • Coindog
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    Mustbebob, I stumbled across the answer to what is going on with my dime. I was doing research on feeder fingers causing die damage and this example was in article. It was like wow, that's exactly like my 2015 dime.

    Roosevelt Dimes:
    They are more often in a horizontal location direction on these dimes. Still need images of the other ones so we will know what to look for on them.

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  • Coindog
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    Mustbebob, I didn't think there was such a thing as an in collar broadstrike. Like I said, I've heard people use the term and thought, maybe they know something I've never heard of. I always thought a broadstrike occured partially or completely out of collar, is my understanding. Thanks for confirming my suspicions of what this person told me. This is just one messed up die when it struck.

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  • mustbebob
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    First of all, a broadstrike is the result of the collar not deploying in the first place and the coin being stuck so that it is not contained by anything. For the dealer to say this is a broadstrike in the collar is just plain wrong and I am thinking that maybe they do not understand the striking process. The collar also determines the size of the stuck coin, and this coin is not any larger that I can determine. Maybe this is just die wear as some here have suggested. Sometimes, the most obvious is the answer.

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  • Coindog
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    I just had this dime looked at by another coin dealer this weekend and was told it's a broadstrike in collar. Told the tell tale signs are the outward distortions of the edge details and the contours of the strike from the center outward on both obverse and reverse.
    I've heard references to in collar Broadstrike but never personally seen one.

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  • Coindog
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    Thanks, Hope he has the time too. I'll check out Ebay. I generally try to stay away from FleeceBay. LOL. If I can't touch or loop before I buy it, I don't.

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  • jcuve
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    John is in bad health, hopefully he can look at it and get back to you. From the photos it has the appearance of die wear to me. 2015 was a bad year for dime dies. Go to ebay and type "2015 dime ddo" and you will see a bunch of dimes with die wear....

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  • Coindog
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    So the entire outer portion of the die went to total hell at the same time. Hmmm. The foot of the L in Liberty is totally doubled in my opinion. I'll find out soon enough when it comes back from this guy that lives near me, Mr. Wexler.
    Last edited by Coindog; 06-13-2021, 03:07 PM.

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  • jcuve
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    It's all die wear.

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  • Coindog
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    A BIG THANK YOU BOB. I just loaded one of my favorite penny DDR errors.

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  • mustbebob
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    If you go to Wexler's site (http://www.doubleddie.com/1467540.html), there are instructions for submitting coins in the left hand column. I believe it is the second item down.

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  • Coindog
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    Mustbebob, I would love to send this dime to John Wexler as a discovery error but, I don't have a clue how to do that. I read coinworld discovery articles by him about people submitting finds for him to attribute. Maybe someone can help with that here.

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  • mustbebob
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    The stutter strike does account for some of what I see. However, I am not an error specialist, so that needs to be addressed by someone else who can make a positive ID.

    I do not recommend just submitting the coin as a DDO/DDR and having someone else figure it out. It is not a variety, and as such should not be submitted as one.

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  • Coindog
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    As promised, here are photos taken by my coin microscope. Stutter Strike Type II

    PART VI. Striking Errors:

    Stutter Strikes:

    Stutter Strikes due to planchet flexion (Type II):




    Definition: A stutter strike is a rare error that can be thought of as the polar opposite of machine doubling. While the extra impressions of machine doubling occur after the downstroke of the hammer die reaches its lowest point, a stutter strike occurs before the downstroke has completed its downward trajectory. In a stutter strike, the hammer die makes initial light contact with the surface of the coin, but completes its descent in a slightly different position relative to the original point of contact. The result is a thin crescent of design at the outer margin of coin, distinctly separate from the definitive strike.

    A stutter strike can result from movement of the die, movement of the coin, or expansion of the coin during the downstroke. It always occurs together with at least one other press malfunction or error. Associated errors include an off-center strike or broadstrike atop a stiff collar, an indent or partial brockage, or a loose die in combination with any of the aforementioned errors.
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    Last edited by Coindog; 06-06-2021, 09:07 AM.

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