New Member of CONECA

[Dj1951]

HELLO EVERYONE! Im Dj1951, I’m a new member of CONECA & I’ve been collecting coins approximately 2 years. Your patience & assistance concerning my questions & postings will be greatly appreciated.

[Dj1951]

I have a 1958D 1C MS66 RD graded by PCGS. The slabbed coin has what appears to be an “S” mint mark.No “S” mint mark penny was minted in 1958. Your input concerning the photo will be sincerely appreciated.

[RAS SMITH]

I don't care what the slab shows, that's a straight up S mint mark if I've ever seen one!. It may suppose to have been a (D) mint mark but it is clearly a S, and the bust appears to be a proof coin as well,. That coin is 64 years old, so I did a brief research, and I cannot find where anyone has ever mentioned finding a similar coin,. No one has expressed having a 1958 D coin that appears to be a S mint mark! That is truly a rare error coin, I wish it were mine,. There is no logical explanation how a D or even a repunched D over D could appear as a (S) they say a picture is worth a thousand words, I would love to hear the explanation that explains the error for this coin! I can see it and so can everyone else, it is what it is, and that is a 1958 S coin,. Being authenticated by PCGS it is definitely not a fake coin.. for real, congratulations man,. Why can't I find something like that LOL. You've got a 1958 s and I seriously doubt there will ever be another one found.

[MintErrors]

That close up of the "S" mintmark and date is just way too unfocused for me to give my opinion.

1955-S was the last wheat cent minted with an "S". That's three years, and some one accidentally used an "S" mintmark? I don't know..... Dies typically do not mint just one coin, the Lincoln cent dies typically mint above 600,000+ coins.

To make a point, unless you had the coin raw and sent it in yourself, be cautious. I have seen a 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS-63 that was considered "art", it was in what looked like an authentic PCGS slab, but the "seller" was selling this coin for $400.00 or so. I think the 1889-CC was located in Asia some where.

[Dj1951]

The 1958 D 1c pictured below was authenticated by PCGS but the mint mark shows a “S” instead of a “D” mint mark. No “S” mint marks were reportedly minted that year. What does a coin collector do to get as authenticated coin recognized that supposedly doesn’t exist but yet the slabbed coin shows otherwise? Your comments & advice will be greatly appreciated.

[mustbebob]

I don't care what the slab shows, that's a straight up S mint mark if I've ever seen one!.

Are you really willing to believe that this is an S mintmark based on this photo? Why even post a photo like this? You can 'discuss' the pros and cons all you want, but if I were to believe I had such a rarity, I would do whatever it takes to show a full, IN FOCUS photograph. This has been to the very same place where you would send coins to for authentication of this so called anomaly. Wonder why they put a D on the slab? Maybe because that's what it is.

Any photo can be made to show anything. Until better photos and in hand examinations can be accomplished, you would be well advised to hold judgement on what this is.

[Dj1951]

Mr. Piazza, your highlighted quotation at the beginning of your response to me is incorrect. Hopefully you’ll retract it as I never made such a definitive statement concerning the “S” mint mark. Please review my comments & you’ll see that you misquoted my writings.
I definitely agree that photographs can be altered in certain situations. I truly believe it’s a stretch to say “Any photo can be made to show anything.” Anyhow, with that said, I’ll post updated photos upon my return to the States. Thanks for your input!

[MintErrors]

The 1958 D 1c pictured below was authenticated by PCGS but the mint mark shows a “S” instead of a “D” mint mark. No “S” mint marks were reportedly minted that year. What does a coin collector do to get as authenticated coin recognized that supposedly doesn’t exist but yet the slabbed coin shows otherwise? Your comments & advice will be greatly appreciated.

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You send it back in to PCGS and they will re-evaluate the coin. IF it is a legit "S" they may not charge anything. IF it is not they'd probably charge the full error variety price (but not the grading) and could charge a "re-holder" fee and shipping plus insurance. IF they deem it not a true PCGS slab they may have "some one" investigate the issue, and the coin might be confiscated. I am just laying out all the options on the table.

[Dj1951]

Thanks for the update Mr. Kozera & advice as to the legal ramifications of submitting a fraudulent coin. I definitely would never submit a fraudulent slabbed coin as that would constitute Federal criminal charges. As you know, submitting a coin which has no established/published variety to any third party grader would be total nonsense & waste of money/time as PCGS or its competitors don’t establish error varieties. Hopefully, I wrong, but I truly believe even after the “S” minted I own is determined by whomever to be “legit”, I anticipate further obstacles to overcome. Thanks again for your valuable time!

[Ronald]

Mr. Piazza, your highlighted quotation at the beginning of your response to me is incorrect. Hopefully you’ll retract it as I never made such a definitive statement concerning the “S” mint mark. Please review my comments & you’ll see that you misquoted my writings.
I definitely agree that photographs can be altered in certain situations. I truly believe it’s a stretch to say “Any photo can be made to show anything.” Anyhow, with that said, I’ll post updated photos upon my return to the States. Thanks for your input!

he must be quoting the other poster’s comment,?

[mustbebob]

I will not retract anything. I didn't quote you DJ1951. How could I quote you if you never said it...right? If you read the statement from RAS SMITH, you will see it.

[Dj1951]

Mr.Piazza, I have no control over RAS SMITH comments although I agree with his/her very candid assessment. Your quotation of RAS SMITH comment as an opening headline in your message to me gives inference to other CONECA MEMBERS that I made the comment. You then used it to craft an outright unjustified/wrongful attack against my JUDGMENT & INTEGRITY. CONECA MEMBERS-PLEASE READ ALL OF MY COMMENTS SOLICITING ASSISTANCE & GUIDANCE ; THEN PIAZZA’S RESPONSES. HE ALSO INDIRECTLY IMPLIED THAT THE PHOTOS COULD HAVE BEEN ALTERED. I joined CONECA SOLELY FOR PROFESSIONAL ADVICE & DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER MEMBERS-NOT TO BE PERSONALLY ATTACKED. A MESSAGE TO RAS SMITH: PIAZZA DIRECTED HIS ATTACK AGAINST YOUR COMMENTS-NOT MINE!

[mustbebob]

You need to chill out., and rather quickly. Don't yell, and don't even try to say what other members are thinking. You certainly don't have any right to say that I personally implied anything. I made my comments, and everyone but you seems to be fine with it. They know who the comment was meant for...after all I quoted it. In addition to properly quoting the text, I am also able to post my opinion on anything posted in a public forum. You took my comments as a personal attack? Grow up. I never said a thing attacking you personally, so get over it. That is why you posted here right? You wanted opinions, right? My recommendation to you is that you worry about you, and not about other people. Don't discount the membership by saying they are incapable of figuring out things on their own. They don't need your help telling them what I said, they can read it themselves.

[MintErrors]

Ummm all this over some really bad photos on a coin by the original poster.
I'd like to say we are patiently waiting for them, four days later.
No big deal either way. Plenty of other folks here to help.
I will probably check back in a couple of weeks or so to see if anything positive has festered.

[Dj1951]

Enhanced photos showed a “D” mint mark & not an “S” as it appeared. Thanks much for input.