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  • MintErrors
    Minterrors.org
    • Jun 2015
    • 3554

    #16
    Originally posted by HeartWith02 View Post

    Would you mind explaining to me EXACTLY how I'm playing games here?? I'm not refusing to post pictures!! Pictures have nothing to do with the question of this thread! Did you actually read my first post and see the subject line??....probably not!

    The question is and was: Have any of you guys ever seen one of these actually attributed? For a 2007-P George Washington Dollar - Elongated Third Ray on the Reverse.

    Again, the question has nothing to do with pictures!

    Let me ask you a question: Are you even familiar with this coin?... Probably not. That's why you're accusing me of playing games, because you don't have an answer to my question. If you don't have an answer, just say you don't know. Don't attack me!! I don't appreciate you accusing me of playing games! You get my point??
    Yeah, I am familiar with it. I had a lady come up to me at the biggest show in Virginia, the VNA in September 2021. She had one, it was raw probably border line Au-UNC. I had to surf from varietyvista to this small dollars website to find the article.



    The small dollar website also was a good reference for the 1999 VIP strikes for the 2000 Sacagawea coins.
    (http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page22.html)

    The article has some additional info, but nothing earth shattering. In my opinion, this condition probably didn't catch on in time. I personally don't know any modern small dollar collectors at all - minus me doing a PF69 Sacagawea set.

    I think the edge lettering craze that is dying on the vine may have been the fruit of all evil. The sheer amounts of the common ones made all the collectors simply say "oh hum" and many people pass on even looking for anything additional on the small dollars =\ OR they simply looked at edge lettering until their eyes crossed and didnt bother looking for anything else.

    IF it was probably a tooling issue and if so, it was probably a single die. I know dies can last about 325,000 strikes for a quarter, and the dollars are close to that same size. Problem is we don't know if the elongated ray was there for all the strikes or was taken out of the machine, maintenance was performed on the die and placed back into service for a while. There are a lot of "unknowns".
    Last edited by MintErrors; 03-19-2022, 10:30 PM.
    Gary Kozera
    Website: https://MintErrors.org

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    • HeartWith02
      Banned
      • Aug 2021
      • 363

      #17
      Originally posted by MintErrors View Post

      Yeah, I am familiar with it. I had a lady come up to me at the biggest show in Virginia, the VNA in September 2021. She had one, it was raw probably border line Au-UNC. I had to surf from varietyvista to this small dollars website to find the article.



      The small dollar website also was a good reference for the 1999 VIP strikes for the 2000 Sacagawea coins.

      The article has some additional info, but nothing earth shattering. In my opinion, this condition probably didn't catch on in time. I personally don't know any modern small dollar collectors at all - minus me doing a PF69 Sacagawea set.

      I think the edge lettering craze that is dying on the vine may have been the fruit of all evil. The sheer amounts of the common ones made all the collectors simply say "oh hum" and many people pass on even looking for anything additional on the small dollars =\ OR they simply looked at edge lettering until their eyes crossed and didnt bother looking for anything else.

      IF it was probably a tooling issue and if so, it was probably a single die. I know dies can last about 325,000 strikes for a quarter, and the dollars are close to that same size. Problem is we don't know if the elongated ray was there for all the strikes or was taken out of the machine, maintenance was performed on the die and placed back into service for a while. There are a lot of "unknowns".
      Thanks very much Gary!! That's all I'm really looking for. Reasonable answers to some questions. Not some hyperdolic crap from this guy Kloccwork419!

      I came here because I thought CONECA dealt with varieties. It's nice to see/hear someone else is familiar with this coin. Your detailed explanation has filled in some blanks.

      Who is this guy Kloccwork419 and why does he have a hair up his ass? Is he that rude to other member here? He seems kinda sensitive and emotional about coins. He's probably hiding under his desk! : )

      Thanks again for the feedback!
      Last edited by HeartWith02; 03-19-2022, 11:09 PM.

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      • mustbebob
        Moderator
        • Aug 2007
        • 3050

        #18
        I am closing this thread. It has run its course. I may delete it all together. Everyone here has alienated everyone else. If you don't like it, keep your rude comments to yourself.
        Bob Piazza
        Lincoln Cent Attributer

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        • HeartWith02
          Banned
          • Aug 2021
          • 363

          #19
          UPDATE:

          Got this back from ANACS. Next stop,... an FS designator.
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          • HeartWith02
            Banned
            • Aug 2021
            • 363

            #20
            Update for your viewing pleasure.
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            • HeartWith02
              Banned
              • Aug 2021
              • 363

              #21
              Originally posted by Kloccwork419 View Post
              Wrong again. Not sure why you’re here. Because you have an elongated ray and think your special?
              This forum was here before they took over attributions. Can tell with the couple comments already you have no idea what you’re talking about and came here just to run your mouth.
              So keep doing it, I wont see your next comment because the ignore option works great here. So keep crying to whoever will listen. I wont see it
              Hmmmm, now that's interesting!

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              • HeartWith02
                Banned
                • Aug 2021
                • 363

                #22
                Update from PCGS:

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                • HeartWith02
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2021
                  • 363

                  #23
                  Update via ANACS. The numbers are apparently growing.
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                  Last edited by HeartWith02; 04-29-2022, 06:15 PM.

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                  • mustbebob
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3050

                    #24
                    Number reported/graded has to start at one...right? Maybe now that it is out there, others will be reported. Great job on your persistence!
                    Bob Piazza
                    Lincoln Cent Attributer

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                    • HeartWith02
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2021
                      • 363

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mustbebob View Post
                      Number reported/graded has to start at one...right? Maybe now that it is out there, others will be reported. Great job on your persistence!
                      Yes, I guess the discovery has to start somewhere. One is a good number. Yes, I'm looking forward or curious on seeing how many might be out there. I'm watching all 3 pop reports.

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                      • HeartWith02
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2021
                        • 363

                        #26
                        As Kloccwork419 told me: Wrong again!
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                        Last edited by HeartWith02; 05-04-2022, 01:02 AM.

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                        • HeartWith02
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2021
                          • 363

                          #27
                          Documentation update.
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                          • HeartWith02
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2021
                            • 363

                            #28
                            It took awhile but here's another update:
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                            • mustbebob
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3050

                              #29
                              I had never heard of Variety Slabbing Service, so I did my research. It seems that VAMS are their thing primarily, but this is nice. Being that it is a coin world slab, I take it the slabs are not sealed, so your coin can be removed?
                              Bob Piazza
                              Lincoln Cent Attributer

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                              • HeartWith02
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2021
                                • 363

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mustbebob View Post
                                I had never heard of Variety Slabbing Service, so I did my research. It seems that VAMS are their thing primarily, but this is nice. Being that it is a coin world slab, I take it the slabs are not sealed, so your coin can be removed?
                                Yes, unfortunately that is correct. Unlike the three major TPG'ers slabs, they are not sonically sealed. The coin can be removed. Which means it could be tampered with. I guess it is what it is. But I still like them.

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