1958-D Jefferson - Would YOU list this coin as an RPM?

[eaxtellcoin]

Hello folks,
I have 7 copies of this die from 1 roll. My problem with this die is I don't have any for sure serifs.
The abnormality is slightly tilted and seperated to the West. It IS raised to the field, but it is also a very late die state coin. Alot of die pull towards the rim.
What does everyone else think about die abnormalities like this?
Thanks for all the responses - good and bad.
Eric Possible-1958-D_RPM.jpg

[MintErrors]

In my opinion, near the arrow to the west of the mintmark, there appears to be enough to call it a D/D/D/D, maybe even a 5th D. The serif to the north, I can see 3 or 4 potential split serifs. The serif to the south, I can see 2 or 3 splits in the serif when i zoom in with the tablet. . Now, the questions are... is that separation enough, and is it at 10x power or less.

I often wonder about the path of the die when it has hammered the coin. Was the punch truly orientated to there was no potential issues as the die is lifted? This mintmark might have been punched into the die at a slight angle, and we are seeing some abnormal effects from that.

If this was my call, I would probably ask Ken Potter, James Wiles, and possibly John Welxer or Brian who does the nickels at Brian's varieties. They have more experience in nickels than I.

My last suggestion, would be answer this question; if you had an average collector that was willing to listen to you about this being a RPM, could you comfortably and confidently explain the way it was made and potentially sell this piece ?

I can see it listed as an RPM but maybe as a minor.

[Petespockets55]

Nice image and lighting.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm seeing "for sure" on the serifs as well as the secondary bar west, even on this VLDS coin.
That top serif is showing lots of extra thickness as well as thin notching, not just die flow lines.

I also agree with Gary about at least one of the punches having been tilted. (To my eyes it's the one forming the primary vertical bar.)

[eaxtellcoin]

Morning everyone:

Gary: I look at everything with a 20X Zeiss Loop. I picked the ""West"" out without any trouble but the serifs seem to change.
The problem with the serifs is they change with how well each planchet was struck, some of the examples look like one serif can be seen - maybe - depending on the die flow. others appear more like the planchet photoed.

Thank You both Gary and Pete for your responses.

Here is another planchet - same die 1958-D_West.jpg

[eaxtellcoin]

I thought I would come back to this post and let all watching know what I decided. I put the coins back in the roll, and went onto the next.
Reason: 1) I technically only have 1 pick up point for sure - the bar NW-SE and the bar is broken with a curve at the top.
With die state and metal flow we really cannot tell if those are true serifs or a very worn out die.
What is shifted east could also be part of MD from the die.
Since I cannot tell for sure - I wouldn't send in.
Eric

[occnumis2021]

well said and most likely what the attributor(s) would say unless there were to be an eds/mds with same pups but that is a pretty far stretch.