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1880 Indian Head Penny Die Break. DDO?

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  • Daverage
    CoinGoBoingGo
    • Apr 2021
    • 120

    1880 Indian Head Penny Die Break. DDO?

    Hello all, so I recently bought a small lots of Indian head cents and recieved this 1880 IHP with what I would believe to be a late stage die break/breaks. I have found this error online but not to this degree . I'm not sure but it may be a DDO as well. There appears to be doubling on obverse and reverse. I don't know alot about the stamping of the IHP but the break starts at 1 o'clock obverse before the O in OF and finished at around 5:30 through the 0 in 1880. The breaks are also visible on the reverse of the penny. Any input on would be appreciated. My first coin share on the Coneca Forum. Thanks for welcoming me into the fold.
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  • mustbebob
    Moderator
    • Aug 2007
    • 3050

    #2
    There are many cases of die cracks on IH cents. I do not know if anyone documented every example, but the bigger cracks sometimes bring a premium. I can't quite make it out on your photos photos though.
    As far as the doubling you are observing, Indian Head cents were notorious for what they called 'Longacre Doubling', There is a lot of information concerning this doubling. The link below shows the search page for it. Take your pick and see if this looks like what you see.

    Bob Piazza
    Lincoln Cent Attributer

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    • Daverage
      CoinGoBoingGo
      • Apr 2021
      • 120

      #3
      Thank you for your reply mustbebob. I uploaded more are pics of this IHP that hopefully better show the die cracks. The doubling I think I am seeing is in front of the Indians face in under United States, quite abit away from the device. That being said I am not a expert so again thank you for replying.
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      • jcuve
        Lead attributer
        • Apr 2008
        • 1497

        #4
        From these photos I can't detect anything unusual. The coin appears to be corroded or has something on the surface of the SE obverse. And whatever happened, it was probably decades ago.
        Jason Cuvelier

        CONECA
        Lead attributer

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        • Daverage
          CoinGoBoingGo
          • Apr 2021
          • 120

          #5
          Thanks Jason,

          Yeah, my new usb microscope lighting is making the pics harder to translate. The coin isn't eaten up tbh. I had this penny evaluated at a local shop this week. I was advised by the owner to send it in to have it examined further. It does have cracks in the collar at 1 o'clock and 5:35 My pics above have alot of glare. I didn't post collar pics pics due to my two previous pic posts on this coin. I don't want to be that person.
          Thanks Dave

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          • jcuve
            Lead attributer
            • Apr 2008
            • 1497

            #6
            By collar, do you mean rim? Die cracks are common, and need to add up to something substantial to mean anything. As Bob noted, Longacre doubling is prevalent on IHC. From the photos included, I just am not sure what's going on.
            Jason Cuvelier

            CONECA
            Lead attributer

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            • Daverage
              CoinGoBoingGo
              • Apr 2021
              • 120

              #7
              Jason. Thank you for your response. I don't want to burden the forum further with this coin/post.
              Dave

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              • jcuve
                Lead attributer
                • Apr 2008
                • 1497

                #8
                Keep it on the back burner. I always keep questionable coins and return to them later.
                Jason Cuvelier

                CONECA
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