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2009 (D) Lincoln bicentennial early childhood penny: Bi-lateral Shattered die error?

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  • 2009 (D) Lincoln bicentennial early childhood penny: Bi-lateral Shattered die error?

    Hello everyone. I'm a new member and this is my first post. The photos should hold the details when zoomed in on, but if not please, please let me know?

    My track recorded for finding and getting mint errors slabbed has not been much of a success. So, I would like to get more knowledgeable advice on it before I make those mistakes again.

    I’ve heard of issues with the zinc-Lincoln pennies corroding and would just like to know your thoughts on this one.
    • Is it just a “zinc-Lincoln self-destructing itself”, or is this a legitimate mint-error with market value?
    • Are all the black lines obverse & reverse, indications of more die cracks or breaks or is this just something else?

    As a visual note which the photo doesn’t really pull out. When looking at this under a loupe it appears that the upper portion of the front of the cabin is another layer of metal. Also, if design detail differences are worth anything. The cabin corner & fireplace, plus Lincoln’s hair part and shoulder on the obverse, looks very different as well.

    I thank you all, for your time with this post.

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    It all looks like staining to me. Try giving it an acetone bath. I don't think it will hurt it. Submerge the coin and a Q-tip in a small cup of acetone. Let the acetone saturate the Q-tip. Then "GENTLY" wipe surface of the coin with the Q-tip. If it's staining, it might come off. If it's baked into the surface of the coin or if it's die cracks or damage, it won't.

    Just my 2 cents!!
    Last edited by HeartWith02; 09-02-2021, 10:57 AM.

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    • #3
      I would agree with staining being the issue here. As HeartWith02 mentioned, it may or may not come off. There would not be any design differences. All of the coins came from the same Master.
      Bob Piazza
      Lincoln Cent Attributer

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      • #4
        If you use acetone, let's see the after results.

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        • #5
          I thank you all for your input and guidance. And I apologize for my delay. I will upload new pictures as soon as I can.

          Thanks again.

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          • #6
            Hello again, I found another post online here with Mike Diamond saying that acetone is not kind to copper plated zinc pennies and leaves them with a different color. And I don't want make anyone not want the coin.
            So, how long do you suggest leaving the penny in an acetone bath? And should it be rinsed after?
            Or would there anything else you would recommend?

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            • #7
              I've used it with no problem. Don't soak it long, just a minute or so. You can rinse it with distilled water. If it was a high value coin I would say don't touch it, leave it alone.

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              • #8
                HeartWith02, thank you for the advice, I will test this acetone treatment on some other similar zinc coins and if or when I do, the acetone bath on this one I will resubmit pictures. Quick question, if the reverse does have a crack on the cabin "top right corner to the top of door and beyond" would you still do the acetone treatment? I've just recently had bad results from PCGS restoration services and I do not want another collectable coin destroyed or rendered back to a none desirable state. So I am going to try and prefect my skills at this first.

                Thanks again, greatly appreciate your time and advice.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KiloBay View Post
                  HeartWith02, thank you for the advice, I will test this acetone treatment on some other similar zinc coins and if or when I do, the acetone bath on this one I will resubmit pictures. Quick question, if the reverse does have a crack on the cabin "top right corner to the top of door and beyond" would you still do the acetone treatment? I've just recently had bad results from PCGS restoration services and I do not want another collectable coin destroyed or rendered back to a none desirable state. So I am going to try and prefect my skills at this first.

                  Thanks again, greatly appreciate your time and advice.

                  Yes. An acetone treatment would not bother me on this coin. Keep in mind; it's your decision. Also, die cracks on these modern cents are fairly common and not rare.

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                  • #10
                    Thank you HeathWith02, great information and I will re-post pictures if I go that route.

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