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1945-P Jefferson Variety and Error

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  • N-6471
    Mcpix
    • Dec 2020
    • 94

    1945-P Jefferson Variety and Error

    1945-P FS-803 Obv.jpg 1945-P FS-803 Rev.jpg 1945-P FS-803 CU.jpg I found this in a roll and sent it in. Is this an example of ruptured gas bubbles? There are a couple of smaller ones on the reverse that didn't rupture.
  • occnumis2021
    NumisScholar
    • May 2021
    • 1422

    #2
    neat coin.

    coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com

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    • eaxtellcoin
      RPM Dealer Specialist
      • Feb 2008
      • 798

      #3
      What a bummer. I'm not totally sure what that is... I do now that PCGS will NOT let you add that one to your set because of the Defective Planchet or clips etc...
      I missed one of these at a coin show about this time last year. Purchased one on e-bay and realized the mistake. Coin was gone next show.... Oh well - It's a NICE example of the DDR anyways!!!

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      • Petespockets55
        • Aug 2021
        • 369

        #4

        Looking at the examples at error-ref.com, I would say yours isn't an occluded gas bubble but a planchet defect (but not really a lamination issue either).
        https://www.error-ref.com/gas-bubbles/


        It might "almost" be a ragged clip because of the bumpy texture along the edge.
        https://www.error-ref.com/ragged-clips/

        EDIT- How about an image of the ones on the reverse for comparison?
        Last edited by Petespockets55; 04-06-2023, 08:51 AM.

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        • occnumis2021
          NumisScholar
          • May 2021
          • 1422

          #5
          Originally posted by Petespockets55 View Post
          Looking at the examples at error-ref.com, I would say yours isn't an occluded gas bubble but a planchet defect (but not really a lamination issue either).
          https://www.error-ref.com/gas-bubbles/


          It might "almost" be a ragged clip because of the bumpy texture along the edge.
          https://www.error-ref.com/ragged-clips/

          EDIT- How about an image of the ones on the reverse for comparison?
          ya, i was thinking kinda of a ragged edge but i'm not certain where the line gets drawn officially. it may even be up to the attributer and some opinions may vary.
          coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com

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          • N-6471
            Mcpix
            • Dec 2020
            • 94

            #6
            Originally posted by eaxtellcoin View Post
            What a bummer. I'm not totally sure what that is... I do now that PCGS will NOT let you add that one to your set because of the Defective Planchet or clips etc...
            I missed one of these at a coin show about this time last year. Purchased one on e-bay and realized the mistake. Coin was gone next show.... Oh well - It's a NICE example of the DDR anyways!!!
            I have a very nice MS example of the DDR already. I was hoping for a mint error and a variety. I would like to know what it is though. Thanks for the link.

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            • N-6471
              Mcpix
              • Dec 2020
              • 94

              #7
              Originally posted by occnumis2021 View Post

              ya, i was thinking kinda of a ragged edge but i'm not certain where the line gets drawn officially. it may even be up to the attributer and some opinions may vary.
              It could be a ragged edge too. Just a nice two for the price of one kind of thing. I wonder how many mint state examples there are. Can't be many. The reverse can be seen at the link above. Thanks for your help.

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              • occnumis2021
                NumisScholar
                • May 2021
                • 1422

                #8
                Originally posted by N-6471 View Post
                I wonder how many mint state examples there are. Can't be many..
                hundreds per the pops.

                the rarity is FS.
                coinfacts.com - conecaonline.info - board.conecaonline.org/forum/numismatic-site-links - briansvarietycoins.com - coppercoins.com - cuds-on-coins.com - doubleddie.com - error-ref.com - franklinlover.yolasite.com - ikegroup.info -lincolncentresource.com - maddieclashes.com - money.org - ngccoin.com/price-guide/world - ngccoin.com/census - ngccoin.com/resources/counterfeit-detection - nnp.wustl.edu - pcgs.com/pop - pcgs.com/coinfacts - pcgs.com/photograde - varietyvista.com - vamworld.com

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                • N-6471
                  Mcpix
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 94

                  #9
                  Originally posted by occnumis2021 View Post

                  hundreds per the pops.

                  the rarity is FS.
                  I was referring to mint error examples. But now I'm curious about the population reports. Thanks

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